Of Elves and Fae? - Soul Star Travelers of Elven World2024-03-28T11:25:31Zhttps://elvenworld.ning.com/forum/topics/of-elves-and-fae?id=2735650%3ATopic%3A26006&feed=yes&xn_auth=noCould be parts of Nature?
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<p>Could be parts of Nature?</p>
<p>the flower and grasses seed and grow taller after the rain</p>
<p>i am a female but definitely identify with Elven and Fae too so I think</p>
<p>its more of an avatar representing colorfully a concept &</p>
<p>makes me curious what. The qualities of individual expression, </p>
<p>doesn’t it seem we imagine it all into existence? Self concept should be choice and </p>
<p>doesn’t have to remain the same for the lifetime….</p>
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<p>Could be parts of Nature?</p>
<p>the flower and grasses seed and grow taller after the rain</p>
<p>i am a female but definitely identify with Elven and Fae too so I think</p>
<p>its more of an avatar representing colorfully a concept &</p>
<p>makes me curious what. The qualities of individual expression, </p>
<p>doesn’t it seem we imagine it all into existence? Self concept should be choice and </p>
<p>doesn’t have to remain the same for the lifetime….</p>
<p></p> From a REALLY different point…tag:elvenworld.ning.com,2024-02-27:2735650:Comment:1195002024-02-27T16:44:09.749ZCalantirniel of the Elven Pathhttps://elvenworld.ning.com/profile/elvenpath
<p>From a REALLY different point of world view, I do NOT think there is similarity between Elves and Fae. But this also depends on what definitions you are using for Elves and Fae, and they might in some cases feel the same and had been misnamed, even in folklore. So, I will explain.</p>
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<p>I was raised in a seemingly "Catholic" yet secular way, somewhere between agnosticism and atheism (depending on which parent), and by the 1980's explored Christianity - really liking the energy of…</p>
<p>From a REALLY different point of world view, I do NOT think there is similarity between Elves and Fae. But this also depends on what definitions you are using for Elves and Fae, and they might in some cases feel the same and had been misnamed, even in folklore. So, I will explain.</p>
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<p>I was raised in a seemingly "Catholic" yet secular way, somewhere between agnosticism and atheism (depending on which parent), and by the 1980's explored Christianity - really liking the energy of the Christ Consciousness, but not "churchiantiy." I was exposed to eastern thought with Buddhism and I loved it. In 1993 (my 1st Saturn Return), I discovered Astrology and had a huge awakening that told me the world is way beyond what is physical! By the mid-1990's I studied Wicca, Paganism and many other Pre-Abrahamic (I guess worldwide indigenous or "shamanic") spiritual approaches that were of a loving, aligned nature; and realized the concept of "many pathways to Source" or the All That Is. Magic and energy work became a part of my life.</p>
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<p>In 2005, I had a life-changing experience and with a group of others (that is as of 2020 a 501(c)3 non-profit spiritual organization), wherein we have integrated the gnosis and energetically "tested" the soundness of what we believe to be the Elven world view of the channeled (yes, you read that right!) Middle-Earth works of Professor JRR Tolkien, collectively called the Legendarium. We will be doing some videos about why we believe this to be the case. Tolkien was a master linguist, and was born with that ability, as well as apparently the ability to channel - but in his time, it was not safe to be open about this, due to his Catholic and his academic background. The world he tapped into is a very ancient, primal or "original" energy, even if it is a relatively modern source, and had it not been for him, we might never know about this. (Off-topic but we will be changing our name from the Elven Spiritual Path to the Way of Arda's Lore and I will share news about that on my wall).</p>
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<p>So, the Elves in Tolkien it seems are DIFFERENT than Elves in any other folklore, and even Tolkien regretted calling them Elves in the Letters of JRR Tolkien. They are also called "Quendi" (which means "Speakers" in the older Elvish language, Quenya). The closest alignment we've noted are the Alfar in Norse, Germanic and/or Teutonic regions, where Asatru and Heathenism are common. But not the same.</p>
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<p>Now - in Western European folklore, it depends upon the region as to the friendliness (or non-friendliness) of the various beings - and there are a LOT of scary incidences, and Ireland is one of these places. Author Morgan Daimler is one of the most well-sourced writers to learn about this lore, because there is a lot of false information out there! What I like about Morgan is she also likes modern Fairy and Elven lore, and even writes her own fantasy series. She is very clear about what is modern and what is old/ancient and I like that.</p>
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<p>Elves are portrayed in Irish lore as mischievious creatures who viewed Humans as play-things and very dangerous. They would take on human lovers and so there is lore in certain family surnames that they have "Elven blood." Reports of being "elf-shot" refer to being shot with their arrows that might have had certain poisons. You can start by going to <a href="https://sacred-texts.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Sacred Texts</a> link (there are other places online as well to get archives of now public domain works) and pay special attention to the various "Celtic" works (a LOT), and to the "Legends/Sagas." If Tolkien is an interest, you'll see there is a special category wherein this list shares works that we know he read in depth that might have in some ways shaped his "container" or screen for bringing forth the Legendarium (and this list is not exhaustive I am sure!)</p>
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<p>We did a video for our rather niche audience, and it is public - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/GqV2e5w-0so" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Difference between Elves and Fairies</a></p>
<p>There are a few other videos you can watch, and if they use Morgan Daimler as their source, you can know it is good stuff! What a great question! <3</p> To us Silver Elves, we see th…tag:elvenworld.ning.com,2022-09-02:2735650:Comment:1086482022-09-02T02:45:46.616ZSilver Flame of The Silver Elveshttps://elvenworld.ning.com/profile/SilverFlameofTheSilverElves
<p>To us Silver Elves, we see the fae as all who are from the Faerie Realm, which includes the elves. Elfin is a part of the vast Faerie Realm. There is surely a difference between the elves and fairies and other magical folk of the Faerie Realm, although we could surely say that we are cousins in some ways. Of course, as magical people we all have varied ideas and experiences about this, particularly since the lore varies and we each must go on our own experience and soulful spirit. We have…</p>
<p>To us Silver Elves, we see the fae as all who are from the Faerie Realm, which includes the elves. Elfin is a part of the vast Faerie Realm. There is surely a difference between the elves and fairies and other magical folk of the Faerie Realm, although we could surely say that we are cousins in some ways. Of course, as magical people we all have varied ideas and experiences about this, particularly since the lore varies and we each must go on our own experience and soulful spirit. We have written our ideas on this in a blog article taken from one of our books The Magical Realms of Elfin, hope you enjoy reading it: <a href="https://thesilverelves.blogspot.com/2018/07/whats-difference-between-elves-and.html" target="_blank">https://thesilverelves.blogspot.com/2018/07/whats-difference-between-elves-and.html</a> </p> Interesting - we actually did…tag:elvenworld.ning.com,2022-04-24:2735650:Comment:1077822022-04-24T21:52:26.470ZCalantirniel of the Elven Pathhttps://elvenworld.ning.com/profile/elvenpath
<p>Interesting - we actually did a video on EXACTLY this subject!! Enjoy!</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/GqV2e5w-0so" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/GqV2e5w-0so</a></p>
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<p>Interesting - we actually did a video on EXACTLY this subject!! Enjoy!</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/GqV2e5w-0so" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/GqV2e5w-0so</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://linktr.ee/elvenspiritualpath" target="_blank">https://linktr.ee/elvenspiritualpath</a></p> Yes and there are faery and e…tag:elvenworld.ning.com,2021-05-30:2735650:Comment:1022742021-05-30T05:29:30.435ZTarahttps://elvenworld.ning.com/profile/Tara
<p>Yes and there are faery and elven in many cultures </p>
<p>Yes and there are faery and elven in many cultures </p> i agree. i have met them in h…tag:elvenworld.ning.com,2021-05-21:2735650:Comment:1021592021-05-21T01:47:06.182ZTarahttps://elvenworld.ning.com/profile/Tara
<p>i agree. i have met them in human form, animal form and quite often in crystal form and as orbs!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Arethinn aTinderel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://elvenworld.ning.com/forum/topics/of-elves-and-fae#2735650Comment26010"><div><p>I think Elves and Fae are different, but similar to greater or lesser degrees, depending on the Fae. I don't think Elves are a kind of Fae (with rare personal exceptions). My personal experience with them is that they carry a different…</p>
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<p>i agree. i have met them in human form, animal form and quite often in crystal form and as orbs!<br/> <br/> <cite>Arethinn aTinderel said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://elvenworld.ning.com/forum/topics/of-elves-and-fae#2735650Comment26010"><div><p>I think Elves and Fae are different, but similar to greater or lesser degrees, depending on the Fae. I don't think Elves are a kind of Fae (with rare personal exceptions). My personal experience with them is that they carry a different vibration.</p>
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<p>"Sidhe" means people of the hills, as I imagine you are aware. As you probably gathered from my other comment, to me, the Tuatha and the Sidhe are not one and the same, although there are crossovers and similarities. I would not use the word Elves for Tuatha nor Sidhe, personally, although there is definitely history in the community for people using more than one of these terms for themselves (Tuatha, Sidhe, Faery, Elven). I would call myself Faery, Sidhe, and <strong>not</strong> Elven or Tuatha, but I recognize cousinship and am certainly eager to meet such people in the flesh!</p>
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</blockquote> i think they are the same rac…tag:elvenworld.ning.com,2021-05-21:2735650:Comment:1022672021-05-21T01:44:16.174ZTarahttps://elvenworld.ning.com/profile/Tara
<p>i think they are the same race and even though many think of elven as male gendered and fae as female gendered it is the similar concept as male and female plants or animals as represented in ElvenWorld and not that gender fluidity does not also exist as represented in Star/Soul Travelers since there is the law of gender which again does not deny human gender fluidity. </p>
<p>i am curious if you think that elven can also be our ancestors and if they manifest in the plant and animal kingdom…</p>
<p>i think they are the same race and even though many think of elven as male gendered and fae as female gendered it is the similar concept as male and female plants or animals as represented in ElvenWorld and not that gender fluidity does not also exist as represented in Star/Soul Travelers since there is the law of gender which again does not deny human gender fluidity. </p>
<p>i am curious if you think that elven can also be our ancestors and if they manifest in the plant and animal kingdom as well. i see so many birds and elementals shown in the lovely nature expressions that seem to speak. even rocks they often appear as heart shaped and other shapes .... crystals too!!</p> By so many names and in so ma…tag:elvenworld.ning.com,2019-11-10:2735650:Comment:657312019-11-10T07:00:26.505ZTarahttps://elvenworld.ning.com/profile/Tara
<p>By so many names and in so many ways we know them; appearing and showing their magic in so many forms and measure beyond our limitations<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Wallace Macgregor said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://elvenworld.ning.com/forum/topics/of-elves-and-fae?commentId=2735650%3AComment%3A65521&xg_source=activity#2735650Comment65520"><div>So , what is the difference between fairies and elves ?<br></br> <br></br> Both elves and fairies are considered divinity , or the offspring of divinity…</div>
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<p>By so many names and in so many ways we know them; appearing and showing their magic in so many forms and measure beyond our limitations<br/> <br/> <cite>Wallace Macgregor said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="https://elvenworld.ning.com/forum/topics/of-elves-and-fae?commentId=2735650%3AComment%3A65521&xg_source=activity#2735650Comment65520"><div>So , what is the difference between fairies and elves ?<br/> <br/> Both elves and fairies are considered divinity , or the offspring of divinity .<br/> Elve are depicted more with out wings where as fairies mostly have wings .<br/> <br/> Elves more than often are depicted as evil , pranksters , bad etc .<br/> The fairies are shown to be the authorities of fate , or destinies . Remember that the word fairies is from the word fates .<br/> Other beings that have wings are angels and some demons.<br/> And some angels married humans , they found the women beautiful, and they had children .<br/> This is from biblical texts and the book of Enoch.<br/> The bible goes on t o say these children became mighty men of old, mighty men of renoun .<br/> The word renoun in the original Hebrew means of conspicuous authority.<br/> I'm thinking royalty here . Why ? , because in days of old many a Caesar, many a royal considered themselves demigods .<br/> A demigod is half human ,<br/> half divinity yes ?<br/> Would they maybe be presented with wings ? Would they be in a position to appoint destiny to their people ?<br/> I think so .<br/> These angels , also called the watchers , or Grigori (gregor) gave technology and arts to their offspring.</div>
</blockquote> Hmmm... try to post it all in…tag:elvenworld.ning.com,2019-11-09:2735650:Comment:654122019-11-09T17:34:31.632ZMorell Sunweaverhttps://elvenworld.ning.com/profile/Morell
<p>Hmmm... try to post it all in one blog post, it allows much more text than comment. and if you keep having problems with uploading texts, you can send them to my e-mail. I have no such problems.</p>
<p>Hmmm... try to post it all in one blog post, it allows much more text than comment. and if you keep having problems with uploading texts, you can send them to my e-mail. I have no such problems.</p> Sorry , alot of what I wrote…tag:elvenworld.ning.com,2019-11-09:2735650:Comment:657272019-11-09T05:17:23.209ZWallace Macgregorhttps://elvenworld.ning.com/profile/WallaceMacgregor
Sorry , alot of what I wrote seems to of disappeared
Sorry , alot of what I wrote seems to of disappeared