I wrote a system in self defence against conceptual chaos, which I saw in most part in my years at the academy. The grand total of all that which you now say here is that here is that proves you are wrong is part of the conceptual chaos. I talked to a poet who thought like me back then that words did n't really matter anymore, that they did n't have meaning. I trace all esthetic objects back to artisan styles, every nail can be considered part of medieval or 1910 or 1970's artisan or conceptual esthetics, thats VISIBLE. LOOK a nails from medieval times and put them ALL in a line towards this age? THAT is esthetics??? Thats what i claim. if you don't agree with that thats fine. If you want to make YOUR words meaningless thats fine. THis is the thread to solidify regression into a classic decorative esthetics. FOR MYSELF AND THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND IT BEFORE HAND. And i also state that the entire "new" idea dislocates from the past which is n't at a distance at all. Us to rebuild the Acropolis. There is no esthetic law against it other then the. "owh no we have to respect historic accuracy." But this itself is a state of a new scientific conservatism out of which you do not get out?? This whole philosophy EXISTS. And is prevelant throughout. Its okay if you want to make your entire meaning apparatus your words meaningless by dabbling into all this owh what about this what about that chaos. But i like to construct a word equimpent i could actually use and work with. TO battle and comprise an alternative method towards esthetics then today. Hahhhh why don't you read the full manifest then tell me what you think. Don't just bicker about details please???